[WarInEur] Fw: More Soviet Cavalry (Query?)
Don Lazov
dlazov at comcast.net
Thu Sep 18 21:34:12 EDT 2008
Karl,
Goett = Goetterdaemmerung: The Fall of Nazi Germany: 1945 which was a
variant produced in 1975 by Stephen V Cole of Amarillo, TX for War in
the East 1st Edition.
I also have the Jagdpanther variants for War in the East as well.
I also have your variant packages 1 and 2 (1983 & 1984) and the War in
Europe Expansion set with the CW and US 18-8, 15-8, 12-8 and 10-8 Armor
XX, and the 10-10 Mot XX and the 24-10 XXX and 10-10 and 8-10 Art XX and
8-10 Mtn XX as well as the Soviets 16-6 and 13-6 Mech XXX, 10-6 and 9-6
Tank XXX and the 10-3-8 Art XX and 15-5 XXX, and 12-3-8 Rkt XX and the
15-4-8 Art XX and the German 18-8, 16-8, 15-8, 14-8, 13-8 and other
stuff. Unknown Author (PDF date is 4/5/2006, I have a hard copy but no
date).
I have collected all this stuff over the years and I have made a War in
the East 1st Edtion Cyberboard game box with the Gott stuff in it. Some
day I'll finish my WIE one at this size.
Electrons bring back to life a lot of stuff.
Karl Gaarsoe wrote:
>
> "Goett" Units?
>
> Where (Who) did those come from?
>
> I suggested (Russian) 26-8 Guards Tank Armies and 20-4 (5)? Shock
> Armies, but no one ever let me test them.
>
> Given all the interest in the Cavalry (Right), might even add 15-8
> Cav/Mech Groups...
> (Stacking as Armies, ie, one per hex = 2 units).
>
> (Remember, the Soviet Attack Power comes from the Artillery).
>
> Karl Gaarsoe
>
>
> --- On *Tue, 9/16/08, Don Lazov /<dlazov at comcast.net>/* wrote:
>
> From: Don Lazov <dlazov at comcast.net>
> Subject: Re: [WarInEur] Fw: More Soviet Cavalry
> To: "Kent & Sue Haunschild" <kentsue at cox.net>
> Cc: "Karl Gaarsoe" <oscardalibrarian at yahoo.com>,
> warineur at mailman.halisp.net
> Date: Tuesday, September 16, 2008, 10:38 PM
>
> Well the first options (back in 73 or 74) had Cav units (Russian,
> German, Turkish, Rom and Austrian-Hungarian it was a WW1 mod) as 2-8.
>
> Variant 1 had:
> German 4-7 Cav XX
> Soviet 2-8 Cav
> Soviet 1-8 Cav XX
>
> Variant 2 had:
> German 4-7 XX
> Austria 6-5 XX
> Austria 2-4 XX
> Austria 4-7 Cav XX
> Bulgaria 6-5 XX
> Bulgaria 4-7 Cav XX
> Turkey 6-5 XX
> Russian 3-8 Cav XX
> * all WW1 mod
>
> Variant 6 had:
> German 4-7 Cav XX/2-7 Cav KG
> German 1-7 Cav X
> German 3-7 Cav XX
> German 2-7 Cav XX
> German 2-8 Cav X
>
> But my favorite units are the Goett units:
> Soviet 40-2-5 Art
> Soviet 18-5 Rifle X
> Soviet 30-6 Tank X
>
> I'll take the Soviets some of these toys!
> Kent & Sue Haunschild wrote:
>> Actually when I look at the TOE for a tank/mech/cav corps sized
>> units your 7-5 makes a lot of sense. There are horse transports
>> but even the tank and mech corps had close to 1000 horse drawn
>> vehicles. The armored components tended to be more self
>> propelled guns rather than tanks, but that can be covered by the
>> lower combat factors. Not sure I agree with the unit builds. a,
>> p and cycles costs are okay, but think cadre should be 12x1-3 or
>> maybe a combination of 2-5 and 1-3.
>>
>> Of course I still think the 1-3's should be 1-4's, but that is a
>> separate issue.
>>
>> Kent
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> *From:* Karl Gaarsoe <mailto:oscardalibrarian at yahoo.com>
>> *To:* warineur at mailman.halisp.net
>> <mailto:warineur at mailman.halisp.net>
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 16, 2008 4:11 PM
>> *Subject:* [WarInEur] Fw: More Soviet Cavalry
>>
>> OK, so where did the original submission of this go?
>>
>> --- On *Sun, 9/14/08, Karl Gaarsoe
>> /<oscardalibrarian at yahoo.com
>> <mailto:oscardalibrarian at yahoo.com>>/* wrote:
>>
>> From: Karl Gaarsoe <oscardalibrarian at yahoo.com
>> <mailto:oscardalibrarian at yahoo.com>>
>> Subject: More Soviet Cavalry
>> To: warineur at mailman.halisp.net
>> <mailto:warineur at mailman.halisp.net>
>> Date: Sunday, September 14, 2008, 6:10 PM
>>
>> Just a light bulb event, the twenty 2-3 Cavalry Corps in
>> the 1944 scenario are the component parts of the Seven
>> (7) Guards Cavalry Corps; (OK, there is one non-guards
>> KD missing in there); But the Maneuver element was the
>> Cavarly Corps; Depicting them as separate units is about
>> as logical as breaking the Tank/Mech Corps into their
>> component brigades.
>>
>> So my proposal of 7-5 Guards Cavarly Corps (build for the
>> cost/time as an 8-6) (Cadre either a 4-3 KK or Three 2-3
>> KK/KD). is more and more logical.
>>
>> Karl Gaarsoe
>>
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