[WarInEur] SB hits on Polesti

[Don Lazov]

I concur and support Kent's interpretation. Remove the DG clarifications 
as they confuse the issue and stick with the SPI ruling. I think they 
pull this from either the non-official KC/LA errata (players groups).

Kent & Sue Haunschild wrote:
> There is some confusion in the rules regarding a SB hit on Ploesti and 
> subsequent Denial of Centers
>  
> SPI [25.0 Ploesti
>  
> General rule:
> Ploesti has five Resource Centers located in the one hex.  This 
> requires a special treatment (when Ploesti is a target), governing the 
> placement of Flak, designation of target, and application of bombing.
>  
> SPI [25.14] A Transportation Hit on one of the Ploesti Centers does 
> *not* affect the other Ploesti Centers for the purposes of Production.
>  
> SPI [25.15] The same rules apply to the two Swedish and the two Iraqi 
> Resource Centers which are in the same hex.
>  
> SPI [26.71] Denial of Foreign Centers:
>  
> 3. Ploesti, Soviet Union, and Turkey: These Centers are available as 
> long as the Axis player can trace a Rail line free of enemy units from 
> them to Berlin.
>  
>  
>
>
>   DG [25.0] Ploesti
>
>             Ploesti has five Resource Centers located in the one hex. 
> This requires a special treatment (when Ploesti is a target), 
> governing the placement of Flak, designation of target, and 
> application of bombing.
>
>  
>
> DG [25.14] A Transportation Hit on one of the Ploesti Centers does not 
> affect the other Ploesti Centers for purposes of Production.
>
>  
>
> DG [25.15] The same rules apply to the two Swedish and the two Iraqi 
> Resource Centers that occupy the same hex.
>
>  
>
> DG [26.7] Denial of Centers
>
>  
>
> 3. Ploesti, Soviet Union and Turkey: These Centers are available so 
> long as the Axis Player can trace a Rail Line, free of Enemy units, 
> from them to Berlin.
>
>  
>
> The bold type on the word "not" in SPI {25.14] was in the SPI printing 
> to give emphasis to the word.  It appears clear that in the original 
> version a T hit did not severe the connection between other RC in the 
> hex with Berlin.   Only a enemy unit was capable of accomplishing 
> that. At first glance the DG rules appear to mirror the original SPI 
> rules.
>  
> But then comes to clarifications that were not in the SPI rules and 
> change the understanding of a T hit.
>  
> DG _26.71 (clarification) Denial of Centers, Item 2 Sweden: Assuming 
> Germany owns a port on the Baltic Sea, sea passage from Narvik or a 
> Swedish port to a German Baltic Sea port and then rail to a German 
> Manufacturing Center is assumed to always succeed (regardless of 
> locations of enemy units or transportation hits on rail lines), once 
> the resource point reaches a neutral or Axis-controlled port from a 
> Swedish resource center._
>  
> DG _26.71 (clarification) Denial of Centers; Item 3 Ploesti, Soviet 
> Unit and Turkey: The entire length of the rail line used to trace from 
> the resource center to Berlin must be free of a Transportation hit 
> after bomb damage repairs have been done.  Note this means that a 
> Transportation hit on Berlin that is not repaired has serious effects, 
> this can be considered political ramifications._
>  
> Both of these "clarifications" are numbered the same and contradict 
> each other.  When clarified in regard to the Swedish Resource Centers 
> transportation hits have no affect. Yet when clarified in regard to 
> Ploesti, Soviet Union or Turkey they do.  The clarification goes on to 
> expand the transportation hit effect to make Berlin a nexus which when 
> hit severs the rail line to "some" of the Foreign Centers but not all.
>  
> Now take a look at the Setup instructions for the WitW 1944 Campaign.
>  
>
> SPI & DG
>
> German Destroyed Resource Centers (Type Marker)
>
> Leuna (R)
>
> Brux (R)
>
> Dulmen (R,T)
>
> Reishoiz (R)
>
> Ploesti, 1st (T)
>
> Ploesti, 2nd (R)
>
>  
>
> Notice that the T hit on Ploesti,1st does not affect the other four RC 
> in the same hex.  The RC hit on Ploesti, 2nd is a separate event and 
> is listed separately.
>
>  
>
>  SPI/DG  [24.83] Definition of a Bombing Hit:
>
>  
>
> ....A Transportation Line Hit is effective against the Rail line and 
> *also* against *either* a Manufacturing Center or Resource Center in 
> the same hex....
>
>  
>
> Both DG and SPI have the same wording.  A transportation hit does two 
> things.  It cuts the rail and it damages the MC or RC.  These are 
> separate events.  It is not cutting the rail that affects the Center 
> but rather the secondary effects of the SB hit.
>
>  
>
> Both the DG rules 26.71 are underlined and in bold type indicating 
> that they are new errata incorporated in 2004.  I think it is obvious 
> that they were not well thought out, clearly reverse the understanding 
> of the published rules and should be ignored until they can be removed 
> in a later revision.  If we allow the clarifications to stand it means 
> that single T hits on Ploesti or Berlin can have a catastrophic effect 
> on German production which had no corollary in the real world.
>
>  
>
> I therefore conclude that the clarifications are erroneous and 
> misleading because a transportation hit has no effect insofar as 
> denying a centers ability to trace a rail line to Berlin.  This means 
> that as long as the hexes defining a rail line are free of enemy units 
> (or enemy controlled hexes) the Center is functional for the purposes 
> of production.  This understanding is in accordance with published 
> rules and the clarification with regard to the Swedish RC, even if it 
> contradicts the clarification for the Ploesti, Soviet Union, and 
> Turkish Centers.
>
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