[WarInEur] Severe Weather Effects
Kent & Sue Haunschild
kentsue at cox.net
Sat Mar 1 20:00:46 EST 2008
Karl-
In CWIE2, with playng with the attrition Option the Severe Weather effects are overkill. The code is such that the supply range, chaining, and first winter effects are all separate variables that can be turned on individually. A standard game would have all these turned on.
As far Axis supply on the East Front goes the majority of it was by rail, but the rail net is abreviated and MSU's were substituted. Axis Supply capabilities in War in the East 1st edition are much better than in the War in Europe version and the first edition allows a much better match with historic territorial gains in 41.
I agree chaining MSU's allows the Germans to do some things that were clearly impossible but I don't agree that a flat proabition is the way to go either. I 'd rather see a degradation of rsupply ange for each MSU in the chain. Something like one is 6, two is 4, and three is 2. Plus maybe increased costs.
I think that if the Germans had centralized the motorized transportation behind a single thrust they would have been able to support a single deep thrust into Russia. So maybe limiting the number of MSU that can be used should be considered so that the Axis cannot be strong everywhere.
Kent
----- Original Message -----
From: Karl Gaarsoe
To: warineur at mailman.halisp.net
Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2008 5:45 PM
Subject: [WarInEur] Severe Weather Effects
OK, Reality Check guys.
READ (Again?) The Relevant chapter in Martin van Creveld, Supplying War. Chapter 5, "Russian Roulette", (pp 142-180) (Cambridge Univ Press, 1977)
Then think about it for a couple of days, and read the whole book.
Supporting evidence: Achtung-Panzer, Heinz Guderian, Translated by Christopher Duffy, Arms & Armor, London, 1992. (originally in German, 1937) See the appendix, especially the chart reproduced below.
Production of Motor Vehicles:
1935
US 74.1%
UK 9.1%
France 5.3%
Germany 4.7%
Canada 3.1%
Italy 1.2%
Others 2.5%
1936
US 77.2%
Britain 7.8%
Germany 4.8%
France 3.5%
Canada 3.4&
Italy 0.9%
Others 2.4%
OK, Motor Vehicel production at this time is pretty much a reflection of the state of the industrial base and the societies preparation to wage mechanied warfare. Duh, Hitler was INSANE. Even after occupying France. The French GM plant manufactured an unknown number of the standard 3t trucks (Opel Blitz) for the Germans; Somewhere on the Web a couple of years ago I saw how a surviving example was being restored by a French reenactor. But the records have been conveniently lost.....
But I think if we are going to continue to call it a historical model, no chaining MSU in Severe weather areas. The Germans just didn't have the resources.
Karl Gaarsoe
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