[WarInEur] RE: East vs. West Play in WiE, aka Stalin's Nightmare

[sgminfo]

One twist with attrition, a 'wrinkle' that  does play havoc with current 
settled wisdom in the game...

I play recently with attrition on, and the OOS AEX option

This means no Aex if you attack oos!!!!!!!!!
But the attrition option allows for the gradual eroding of forces in the 
frontline OOS.

Russia '41 feels a lot more fraught...
Now the Wehrmacht can punch aggressively through WITHOUT suffering 
debilitating losses.
The sky is the limit for deep penetration work, and Rostov is now 
eminently achievable.

And just as intriguingly,
hangng on there is every bit as difficult, as your army melts slowly 
away on the oos limb in that winter vastness...
giving every German commander that sleepless night syndrome.


-|steve|-




Chuck Sutherland wrote:
> Sounds interesting except the Russians should be crushed by it, they have a hard time avoiding that by the Germans if the German is ruthless enough by bringing max air and paradrops, along with a decent amount of amphs and even a trip to Sweden to allow Talinin to fall on the first turn, making Leningrad easy pickings and preparing for Moscow from the North West in 41. Using every minor unit he can scrape up and as many 6-5 as he can, attrition the Russians down and kill them in 42.
>
> Have I done it, no, have I read about it yes in the archives.
>
> Chuck Sutherland
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Carl Rupp [mailto:carlaugustruppsr at aol.com]
> Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 2:45 PM
> To: Chuck Sutherland; F Jake
> Cc: noble1234 at aol.com; sgminfo at aol.com; WarinEur at mailman.halisp.net
> Subject: East vs. West Play in WiE, aka Stalin's Nightmare
>
> I recall that Hitler had some delusions about getting the Brits to join
> him in a grand alliance against the Bolsheviks, and Stalin had some
> paranoia that such a thing might happen. But has anyone ever played the
> game with any sort of special house rules where the German, Brits, and
> French team up against the Russians?
>
> I and another beta tester for CWIE2 have done that with the program, and
> it is turning out to work out fairly well, and the brave soul we played
> this trick on has been a good sport and is playing it out.
>
> Shortly after the fall of Poland zI reached out to the Brits and we
> agreed on this course of action. He transported his British and French
> units to Iran and let me sweep through the Balkans to get Greece and
> free up the Italians to transport into the Black Sea, once Turkey came
> on my side.
>
> Then we waited until the first clear weather turn in cycle 5. He did
> some diplomatic tricks by having the Western Allies declare war during
> his air allocation phase on Norway, Sweden, Finland. Italy, Turkey,
> Rumania, Bulgaria, and Hungary to get all their armies mobilized and on
> my side, and off we went.
>
> There are only two problems. First, that the computer won't count the
> Western Allies air as being against the Soviets when the airpower is
> transferred to the east (after the Brits build a supply line into the
> eastern theatre.) So the British air is useless, though it is required
> to be built at a minimal rate. Second, the ZOCs between the Russians and
> Western Allies don't work as if they are enemies. Other than that, the
> Western Allies can attack the Russian, they can cut the RR supply lines
> in the Caucus, cutting off the resources and the like.
>
> Anyway, seems to play out like an interesting variation. Something to
> add surprise and spice to the game, as long as the Germans and Western
> Allies can get over the trust issue.
>
> Carl
>
>
>
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