[WarInEur] RE: East vs. West Play in WiE, aka Stalin's Nightmare

[Chuck Sutherland]

Sounds interesting except the Russians should be crushed by it, they have a hard time avoiding that by the Germans if the German is ruthless enough by bringing max air and paradrops, along with a decent amount of amphs and even a trip to Sweden to allow Talinin to fall on the first turn, making Leningrad easy pickings and preparing for Moscow from the North West in 41. Using every minor unit he can scrape up and as many 6-5 as he can, attrition the Russians down and kill them in 42.

Have I done it, no, have I read about it yes in the archives.

Chuck Sutherland

-----Original Message-----
From: Carl Rupp [mailto:carlaugustruppsr at aol.com]
Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 2:45 PM
To: Chuck Sutherland; F Jake
Cc: noble1234 at aol.com; sgminfo at aol.com; WarinEur at mailman.halisp.net
Subject: East vs. West Play in WiE, aka Stalin's Nightmare

I recall that Hitler had some delusions about getting the Brits to join
him in a grand alliance against the Bolsheviks, and Stalin had some
paranoia that such a thing might happen. But has anyone ever played the
game with any sort of special house rules where the German, Brits, and
French team up against the Russians?

I and another beta tester for CWIE2 have done that with the program, and
it is turning out to work out fairly well, and the brave soul we played
this trick on has been a good sport and is playing it out.

Shortly after the fall of Poland zI reached out to the Brits and we
agreed on this course of action. He transported his British and French
units to Iran and let me sweep through the Balkans to get Greece and
free up the Italians to transport into the Black Sea, once Turkey came
on my side.

Then we waited until the first clear weather turn in cycle 5. He did
some diplomatic tricks by having the Western Allies declare war during
his air allocation phase on Norway, Sweden, Finland. Italy, Turkey,
Rumania, Bulgaria, and Hungary to get all their armies mobilized and on
my side, and off we went.

There are only two problems. First, that the computer won't count the
Western Allies air as being against the Soviets when the airpower is
transferred to the east (after the Brits build a supply line into the
eastern theatre.) So the British air is useless, though it is required
to be built at a minimal rate. Second, the ZOCs between the Russians and
Western Allies don't work as if they are enemies. Other than that, the
Western Allies can attack the Russian, they can cut the RR supply lines
in the Caucus, cutting off the resources and the like.

Anyway, seems to play out like an interesting variation. Something to
add surprise and spice to the game, as long as the Germans and Western
Allies can get over the trust issue.

Carl