[WarInEur] RE: breaking through to Minsk

[Chuck Sutherland]

The high command had it been trained by the germans still could not have 
stopped the panzers because the doctrine was wrong!

sgminfo wrote:
> To follow on to Bob's points....
>
> If you wish to test how 'historical' the game flows
> The the 1940 scenario is the one to test, not the campaign game.
>
> Does the capaign game follow history?
> No...
>
> The French high command are a bunch of ex panzer pushers and thus have 
> an all too real appreciation of the Panzers prowess and capabilities. 
> So the French are always commanded by a well rersearched student of 
> military history, not the guys whose misfortune it was to face the 
> panzers before the book of ww2 had been opened and the plot determined.
>
> ..Now if you put a newbie in charge of the french, the you might get 
> historical results...
>
> It was not that the french were not capable of a much more effective 
> defence, it was that they simply...
>
> a)Did not understand the nature of the beast and had no chance to learn...
> b)When they did see it happening, not only did they not understand the 
> significance of the German moves, but actively cooperated with the 
> German masterplan.
>
> How many consuls of the Republic, at thegates of Cannae, would so 
> fulsomely cooperate to produce a repeat of the desaster that befell 
> them at the hands of Hannibal.
>
> Alternatively, how many commanders would put the Pacific fleet at a 
> peacetime footing, in the anchorage of Pearl Harbour on December 7th?
>
> Or would you be dining out in the bars and restaurants of Taranto, 
> with your entire fleet laid out in the _completely secure_ anchorage , 
> blythely unaware of  the arrival of sSwordfish in the  evening gloom?
>
> Now there is nothing to stop us engineering a repeat performance...but 
> we have to be as innocent lambs to the slaughter..
>
> If the Game starts in May 1940, again OK, but if the game starts in 
> September 1939, are you going to freeze deployments for any active 
> belligerents? You see the lessons ofPoland, only because you know what 
> they are...now...in 1939 it was a very different picture, just as the 
> Gulf showed a plethora of mistaken appreciations and assumptions, 
> fortunately in our favour.
>
> Not to get Russia to work, that is EXACTLY what the rules do, forcing 
> the Soviets to stay forward, and a mass of bolt on rules to try and 
> force them into histoical behaviour. A prudent commander, would 
> deploy, in the light of his knowledge,. in an entirely different way...
>
> ...we do in France, and see nothing wrong, yet seem to blindly accept 
> the opposite in Russia in 1941...
> An apparent contradiction,,,
>
> -|steve|-
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