[WarInEur] RE: breaking through to Minsk

sgminfo sgminfo at aol.com
Thu Nov 15 10:18:08 EST 2007


To follow on to Bob's points....

If you wish to test how 'historical' the game flows
The the 1940 scenario is the one to test, not the campaign game.

Does the capaign game follow history?
No...

The French high command are a bunch of ex panzer pushers and thus have 
an all too real appreciation of the Panzers prowess and capabilities. So 
the French are always commanded by a well rersearched student of 
military history, not the guys whose misfortune it was to face the 
panzers before the book of ww2 had been opened and the plot determined.

..Now if you put a newbie in charge of the french, the you might get 
historical results...

It was not that the french were not capable of a much more effective 
defence, it was that they simply...

a)Did not understand the nature of the beast and had no chance to learn...
b)When they did see it happening, not only did they not understand the 
significance of the German moves, but actively cooperated with the 
German masterplan.

How many consuls of the Republic, at thegates of Cannae, would so 
fulsomely cooperate to produce a repeat of the desaster that befell them 
at the hands of Hannibal.

Alternatively, how many commanders would put the Pacific fleet at a 
peacetime footing, in the anchorage of Pearl Harbour on December 7th?

Or would you be dining out in the bars and restaurants of Taranto, with 
your entire fleet laid out in the _completely secure_ anchorage , 
blythely unaware of  the arrival of sSwordfish in the  evening gloom?

Now there is nothing to stop us engineering a repeat performance...but 
we have to be as innocent lambs to the slaughter..

If the Game starts in May 1940, again OK, but if the game starts in 
September 1939, are you going to freeze deployments for any active 
belligerents? You see the lessons ofPoland, only because you know what 
they are...now...in 1939 it was a very different picture, just as the 
Gulf showed a plethora of mistaken appreciations and assumptions, 
fortunately in our favour.

Not to get Russia to work, that is EXACTLY what the rules do, forcing 
the Soviets to stay forward, and a mass of bolt on rules to try and 
force them into histoical behaviour. A prudent commander, would deploy, 
in the light of his knowledge,. in an entirely different way...

...we do in France, and see nothing wrong, yet seem to blindly accept 
the opposite in Russia in 1941...
An apparent contradiction,,,

-|steve|-
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