[WarInEur] RE: WarInEur Digest, Vol 41, Issue 25

[Wardall Clark]

> Subject: Re: [WarInEur] Queries

> 
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> > 6-5 should be able to opt for converting a retreat into a AEX
> 
> Disagree!  The Amphibious Assault forces the Defender Retreat.  It trumps 
> anything the defender can do.  If the 6-5 has no where to retreat to it is 
> completely eliminated.
> >
THE 6-6 MUST RETREAT when the CRT SAYS so when being Amphibiously assaulted.
When the retreat leads to an illegal hex the unit is eliminated instead.  

> > 2 - I don't know for sure.
> 
> The Allies cannot get to Oslo or Kristansand without passing through the 
> Axis North Sea Interdiction Zone so they should have been intercepted.  They 
> might have survived, but they had to have been intercepted.  Furthermore, 
> both ports are in the Baltic and the Allies cannot trace either NTP or 
> Amphibious Assault until one or other of the ports is Allied controlled 
> first.
> 
> So for the sequence of events you have described to have arisen, the Allies 
> would first have needed  to capture one of the other Norwegian ports on the 
> High Seas, then capture Kristansand or Oslo while fighting OOS.  It doesn't 
> sound like this happened. Still regardless of whether or not they have 
> captured a port they still would be subject to Axis North Sea Interdiction. 
> By they way, the inability to sail into Kristiansand or Oslo stops the 
> Allies from capturing Norway by sailing into the Neutral ports.
> >
The Baltic is separated form the High Seas by the Skagett<sp?>. To transit to 
the Baltic the Allies or Soviets have to first gain control of the intervening waters. 
The Skagerret borders on the North Sea so any units landing there to seize the 
needed port (see BWIE for which ones) are first subject to German North Seas intervention.   


> > 3 - LOL yep it needs to be totally rewritten, first if the Germans cross 
> > the USSR border it should be total war. 

The limited war rules are a kludge.  Without some means by which the Soviet Union 
can strike first, the Axis is allowed to nenude the Soviet Borders entirely. Thus SPI
came up with Limited War. 
Under limited War the Soviets get to rearrange their forces the way they wish and 
fortify the frontiers as fast as they can.  The production system has more Arms points 
to work with and there are fewer restrictions on what may be produced. 

The Downside is that since the Soviet Union initiated the war, it is not allowed to ask for 
the same sacrificies from its economy. 

>>I've heard but not seen where the germans actually avoid triggering total war by not taking the cities that 
> > trigger it and bypassing them using MSU's etc. Its a total candy arse 
> > rules lawyering gambit and I would not play with someone who did this 
> > period!

The problem is that the trigger for a TOTAL WAR economy requires cooperation 
by the Axis forces,; if they surround rather than conquer the personnel centers, then  TOTAL 
WAR never begins.  There is no official errutum for this, but the LA group received an official answer 
to a similar querry:  

The reply was "players may create a house rule whereby a city is considered to have fallen when it no 
longer provides personnel points."
 
Hank Meyer, posted an extended group of limited war rules underwhich the USSR could offer peace and if
 the AXIS declined Total War began the next turn. 

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