[WarInEur] Artillery

[sgminfo]

Ian Raine wrote:
> Steve, you don't need to takle my word for it, you can hear it from 
> the horse's mouth.
>  
> A description of how they (Dunnigan and team) got to these values, or 
> at least most of them, (which originated in the work done on the 
> "Stalingrad II" project between 1969 and 1974 when it was published as 
> War in the East) can be found, in particular, the following S&Ts:
>  
> S&T 23 ("T34" issue organisation of Soviet ground forces)
>  
> S&T 25 ('Centvrion" issue)  orgamisation of german ground forces
>  
> S&T 30 ("Combat command" issue) orgainsation of US ground forces
>  
> S&Ts of that 1970-72 period usually or at least often came with a 
> "numerical modeling " of the units they were talking about in the 
> articles, IE they put in a chart of how the units look from time to 
> time as divisions/corps etc as game counters using there then current 
> Kursk or Normandy systems. They did this as a regular feature in S&Ts 
> of this era. Called "SUF" or standard unit factors or something 
> similar. The provenance of the WiE numbers is obvious when you look 
> through them.
>  
> Having said that I do agree that there is a little more than just 
> numbers going on. I do not think it is any coincidence that an SS 
> panzer division is exactly the right number to over run a Soviet tank 
> corps BG.
>  
> The question however was about Soviet artillery, and the key point is 
> that this is not some sort of semi tactical ranged fire thing, its a 
> depiction of how the Red Army organised things differently to 
> everybody else.

And with that Iagree, both your arguments, and the evidence you marshal 
make a formidable and telling argument on this point.

-|steve|-
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