[WarInEur] Artillery

[Don Lazov]

John,

In the very first game of War in the East 1st Edition on page two it 
shows  a graphic of two sample units (3.21)

One is a German 6-5 XX and the other is a Soviet 10-1-10 Artillery 
Brigade, for the Russian Artillery it clearly states:

Unit Symbol, Unit Size, Attack Strength, Defense Strength and Movement 
Allowance.

This was always understood when WIE came out in 76.

I can't post a graphic here but could send one off line if needed.

Okay going to try anyway:



Don

Buckley, John D (Dr) wrote:
> I get the point, but just because 'it has always been...'  doesn't 
> mean that it is clearly stated in the rules. I tend to to agree with 
> your interpretation but mainly because the Decision Games version 
> clearly prints the factors as 0-1-10 or 0-5-1 etc. The SPI versions I 
> have seen do not categorically state what you say they do, but I have 
> only seen the War in the East second edition.
> As for the range, 'titally ncorrect' rather overplays you point -  all 
> other combat factors can only be applied to an adjacent hex, the range 
> could easily equate to firing over a hex. I'm not trying to be 
> deliberately obtuse here; I  wasn't the only one to see it as I have 
> stated. However, I have raised the issue as I found it odd that the 
> rules don't actually state the case either way. If anyone has access 
> to the first rules maybe it states it clearly there?
> John
>  
>
> */Dr John Buckley/*
> */Reader in Military History/*
> */University of Wolverhampton/*
> */Tel: 0044 (0)1902 323388/*
>
>     -----Original Message-----
>     *From:* Don Lazov [mailto:dlazov at comcast.net]
>     *Sent:* 15 August 2007 12:52
>     *To:* Buckley, John D (Dr)
>     *Cc:* warineur at mailman.halisp.net
>     *Subject:* Re: [WarInEur] Artillery
>
>     Since 1974 (WitE 1st) and 1976 (WIE) it has always been understood as:
>
>     Attack, Defense, Movement
>
>     10-1-10 ART
>     (1)10 (or with DG 0-1-10) AT
>     2(5)1 (or with DG 2-5-1) TU
>     (5)1 (or with DG 0-5-1) GE
>
>     And so on.
>
>     The Soviet Artillery has always been 10 Attack factors, 1 defense
>     factor and 10 movement points.
>
>     Besides your idea of a range of 1 is totally incorrect. The
>     correct range is 2 hexes.
>
>     Also, in order to use the 10 Attack points, other units must be
>     attacking because Artillery have always been support units. In
>     other words Artillery can never attack alone.
>
>
>
>
>     Buckley, John D (Dr) wrote:
>>
>>     A quick query here, which will probably seem odd to most of the
>>     experts but I played a four day BWinE using the living rules over
>>     the weekend and hit a difference of opinion over artillery. We'd
>>     always played that 10-1-10s meant 10 combat strength, 1 range and
>>     10 movement. Our opponents played 10 attack, 1 defence and 10
>>     movement. Other players shared both of interpretations. None of
>>     the old and new rules we had with us stated the case either way.
>>     I'm happy to go with either interp but does anyone have the
>>     definitive answer?
>>
>>     John
>>
>>     */Dr John Buckley/*
>>     */Reader in Military History/*
>>     */University of Wolverhampton/*
>>     */Tel: 0044 (0)1902 323388/*
>>
>>
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