[Consim-l] Stonewall at Cedar Mountain (was: At all Hazards)

Mike NotSpecified blockhead at bresnan.net
Wed Feb 14 14:31:16 EST 2007


"the division
commander must move all his infantry brigades at least 1 hex
towards the enemy Leader or the enemy's side of the map,"

Sounds like a granularity problem.  Pity the poor division commander who can 
only issue "one size fits all" orders


On Wed, 14 Feb 2007 13:45:35 -0500
  bieksza at erols.com wrote:
> On 14 Feb 2007 at 14:50, Markus Stumptner wrote:
> 
>> Very interesting (no, really :-).  Can you explain the problems in more 
>> detail?
> 
>For example, an order to Advance requires that "the division 
> commander must move all his infantry brigades at least 1 hex 
> towards the enemy Leader or the enemy's side of the map," and 
> similarly an order to Retreat requires that "the division commander 
> must move all his infantry brigades at least 1 hex towards the 
> friendly edge of the map."  Here's some situations that struck me as 
> odd, copied from my solitaire notebooks:
> 
> 1) "Eventually Williams took position on the division's right and 
> Augur on the left.  Against such a defense the South decided to wait 
> for Hill.  A 'hold' order went to Winder to establish a position around 
> objective B and a 'retreat' order to Ewell in order to move to Cedar 
> Mountain and capture objective D."
> 
> 2) "Two optional rules were in effect for this game, a bonus for 
> artillery fire into the target's flank (which never occurred) and the 
> requirement for a routed unit which failed to rally to retreat. . . . The 
> other side of the coin was that repeated failures would sent the unit 
> out of command control range.  This also put Williams' Division in a 
> dilemma:  one brigade occupied a key position in the front lines and 
> the other rallied well to the rear.  An 'advance' order for the benefit 
> of the latter would have required the former to stick its neck out!"
> 
> 3) "Once Ewell had seized objective C it let Hill's Division continue 
> the pressure on the Bluecoats, aiming instead for objective D.  That 
> was a tricky maneuver.  First Ewell had to use a 'retreat' order to 
> reach the South Fork.  Then, because Bayard's cavalry occupied 
> the objective, it had to switch to an 'attack' order.  But the Bayard 
> chit was pulled first, and the horsemen retired to the other side of 
> the mountain.  That meant the 'attack' order would have to be 
> treated as an 'advance' order and the division would have to head 
> northwards!  However, Gen. Ewell was able to roll his initiative and 
> the objective was captured after all."
> 
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