[Consim-l] New Forum: Old Soldiers Magazine

[Mike NotSpecified]

Hi Tom,

I've always been a little leery of ACG in general, the Weider family just 
strikes me as a little off.  I enjoy the magazine, but have never bothered 
with the forums.

Anyway, I good luck with your magazine, I think posts here to alert us to new 
issues is fine.  And I'm really enjoying the Flat Top counters you made me!


On Tue, 18 Dec 2007 18:07:35 -0500
  "Thomas Cundiff" <tdcgunslinger at worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> Howdy Mike,
> 
> Yes, I was referring to the ACG forums (Armchair General) i.e. that their 
>forums have become populated by too many far left loons and right wing skin 
>head types.  Just too many people who have no common sense, and no effort 
>made by their moderators to eliminate the riff-raff.  It's not really a 
>wargame website anyway.  It's more of a political and semi-historical website 
>and forum.  They only incidentally cover wargaming.  Given the current tone 
>of American and indeed international politics, it's just a morass of anger 
>and intolerance, I see no reason to associate with such individuals. In my 
>mind doing so just lends aid and support.  Rather like someone who 
>contributes to the efforts of a charity that you know through its back door 
>is lending aid and comfort to terrorists, if you don't remove yourself from 
>the effort, you're just as guilty as anyone else who participated.  Just no 
>sense and too much outright hatred in all too much that is written over 
>there.
> 
> I also take your point referring to the fracturing of the wargaming 
>community.  And you are correct too about the amount of time it takes to post 
>and read things all over the net.  I think CSW has always the opportunity and 
>ability to serve the needs of all wargamers if there was more effective 
>modertion of the excess of its rather more .... shall we say vocal, imptuous, 
>impulsive, and intemperate members.  Sadly no effort is made to do that. 
> And, there's no real  reason to suffer the bad manners of bores.
> 
> If Alan doesn't mind, I'll post things here from time to time such as the 
>release of new issues. One was just released - I try to beat the Jan 1 issue 
>by getting it out before Christmas every year - I've been lucky enough to do 
>that for the last 4 years, nothing I dislike more than being late with an 
>issue and I think it a fair thing for subscribers that they get the articles 
>and things from the January issue before Christmas so they can use it during 
>their Christmas time off from work and school - it's just a courteous thing 
>to do for subscribers.
> 
> I've not much cared for the format of the forums, or threads if that's what 
>they're called, over at CSW either.  The specific construction of the site 
>could be better.  For instance if every company had a forum and under their 
>forum they could list sub forums for their specific games and company news 
>and/or an opportunity for the publishers to chat with wargamers.  That would 
>be more useful than the single thread.  Oh well, c'est la vie.
> 
> Take Care & Merry Christmas,
> Tom
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike NotSpecified" 
><blockhead at bresnan.net>
> To: <consim-l at mailman.halisp.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2007 5:28 PM
> Subject: Re: [Consim-l] New Forum: Old Soldiers Magazine
> 
> 
>> I'm in favor of the group hug, no sarcasm.  But Tom, can you clarify one 
>> thing?  Your original post refered to ACG, Armchair General forums.  Is 
>> that the group you are wanting to get away from?
>>
>> I've argued since the beginning of ConsimWorld that having multiple forum 
>> sites (remember, most publishers have their own as well) tends to fracture 
>> the hobby.  I don't miss the flame wars on this list, but I do miss 
>> hearing about new products etc. unless I'm carefull to sign up for 
>> newsletters from all of the publishers I care about.
>>
>> Also, web forums are the least effective way to communicate in my mind, 
>> how often do you think I'll rememeber to go check the Old Soldiers fourm, 
>> the Columbia Games forum, the Avalanche Press forums at CW, the Avalanche 
>> Press daily content at their website, the.... you get the idea.  If I had 
>> 2 hours a day to devote to the hobby I'd be playing, not surfing endless 
>> websites and forums... I hope you'll post any Old Soldiers updates to this 
>> list!
>>
>>
>> On Tue, 18 Dec 2007 08:32:28 -0800
>>  "Dave Kohr" <davekohr at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> It was almost a flame war, but then it turned into a group hug. With
>>> strong undercurrents of sarcasm. :-)
>>>
>>> Dave
>>>
>>> On Dec 18, 2007 7:13 AM, Tim Allen <t.allen at uwinnipeg.ca> wrote:
>>>> umm...are we having a flame-war about flame-wars?
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