[Consim-l] New Forum: Old Soldiers Magazine

[Thomas Cundiff]

Howdy Mike,

Yes, I was referring to the ACG forums (Armchair General) i.e. that their 
forums have become populated by too many far left loons and right wing skin 
head types.  Just too many people who have no common sense, and no effort 
made by their moderators to eliminate the riff-raff.  It's not really a 
wargame website anyway.  It's more of a political and semi-historical 
website and forum.  They only incidentally cover wargaming.  Given the 
current tone of American and indeed international politics, it's just a 
morass of anger and intolerance, I see no reason to associate with such 
individuals. In my mind doing so just lends aid and support.  Rather like 
someone who contributes to the efforts of a charity that you know through 
its back door is lending aid and comfort to terrorists, if you don't remove 
yourself from the effort, you're just as guilty as anyone else who 
participated.  Just no sense and too much outright hatred in all too much 
that is written over there.

I also take your point referring to the fracturing of the wargaming 
community.  And you are correct too about the amount of time it takes to 
post and read things all over the net.  I think CSW has always the 
opportunity and ability to serve the needs of all wargamers if there was 
more effective modertion of the excess of its rather more .... shall we say 
vocal, imptuous, impulsive, and intemperate members.  Sadly no effort is 
made to do that.  And, there's no real  reason to suffer the bad manners of 
bores.

If Alan doesn't mind, I'll post things here from time to time such as the 
release of new issues. One was just released - I try to beat the Jan 1 issue 
by getting it out before Christmas every year - I've been lucky enough to do 
that for the last 4 years, nothing I dislike more than being late with an 
issue and I think it a fair thing for subscribers that they get the articles 
and things from the January issue before Christmas so they can use it during 
their Christmas time off from work and school - it's just a courteous thing 
to do for subscribers.

I've not much cared for the format of the forums, or threads if that's what 
they're called, over at CSW either.  The specific construction of the site 
could be better.  For instance if every company had a forum and under their 
forum they could list sub forums for their specific games and company news 
and/or an opportunity for the publishers to chat with wargamers.  That would 
be more useful than the single thread.  Oh well, c'est la vie.

Take Care & Merry Christmas,
Tom


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mike NotSpecified" <blockhead at bresnan.net>
To: <consim-l at mailman.halisp.net>
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2007 5:28 PM
Subject: Re: [Consim-l] New Forum: Old Soldiers Magazine


> I'm in favor of the group hug, no sarcasm.  But Tom, can you clarify one 
> thing?  Your original post refered to ACG, Armchair General forums.  Is 
> that the group you are wanting to get away from?
>
> I've argued since the beginning of ConsimWorld that having multiple forum 
> sites (remember, most publishers have their own as well) tends to fracture 
> the hobby.  I don't miss the flame wars on this list, but I do miss 
> hearing about new products etc. unless I'm carefull to sign up for 
> newsletters from all of the publishers I care about.
>
> Also, web forums are the least effective way to communicate in my mind, 
> how often do you think I'll rememeber to go check the Old Soldiers fourm, 
> the Columbia Games forum, the Avalanche Press forums at CW, the Avalanche 
> Press daily content at their website, the.... you get the idea.  If I had 
> 2 hours a day to devote to the hobby I'd be playing, not surfing endless 
> websites and forums... I hope you'll post any Old Soldiers updates to this 
> list!
>
>
> On Tue, 18 Dec 2007 08:32:28 -0800
>  "Dave Kohr" <davekohr at gmail.com> wrote:
>> It was almost a flame war, but then it turned into a group hug. With
>> strong undercurrents of sarcasm. :-)
>>
>> Dave
>>
>> On Dec 18, 2007 7:13 AM, Tim Allen <t.allen at uwinnipeg.ca> wrote:
>>> umm...are we having a flame-war about flame-wars?
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