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The topic of this list is the wargame War in Europe by James Francis Dunnigan et alii, orginally published by SPI circa 1976 and republished in 1999 by Decision Games. A computer version was independently created and released under the auspices of D.G. in 1997. Legitimate subjects for discussion are game design, revision, eratta, historical commentary, supplemental game material, related or derived computer programs, and game play discussion.

Since mid 1997 the traffic on the list has become predominantly focused on the Computer version of War in Europe (CWiE) and the original board game is now referred to as BWiE. Discussions regarding either are welcomed here. However, to lessen confusion the use of the flag BWiE somewhere prominent in your message is advised to indicate that you are writing about the printed version and not the computer game.

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